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Interesting to see some support for the old F1 class. Frank knows there are a few HP-500/525 F1 type boats that can still race. Unfortunately the class still faces all the problems that drove the boats away. Multiple engines, lack of interest, lack of funds, the BS and changing engines again. It never made any sense change to a 496 in a used F1 boat. A 496 in a new boat makes good sense. I haven't seen a ground swell of factory support nor pleasure boat owners with 496's come out and race F1.
The guys who were still racing at the end had converted over to 525's, HP-3's or 500 conversions. I'm not sure how many are left. The activator is a 496. Flashwave has the pod removed and is being converted to pleasure. Velocity ran a 496. Lavey went to a 496. Typhoon was running their 525 engine in a SVL. The White Typhoon has to be a tired HP-500 as it was never rebuilt. Screaming Eagle is still setup for F1 although it only has an HP-500. Not sure what happened to PROPCO.
Seems like time has passed and the 1999 - 2004 F1 guys have moved on after having some of the best racing we could ever hope for.
Jim
F1 HP 500 Boats
Any of the existing F1 boats with HP 500's that have raced in the past and interested in Racing this year please contact me.
Frank Sarro
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2003 SBI World Champion - 2002 SBI National Champion - 2003 SBI National Champion
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Hi Frank, how many guys that raced F1 or even F2 are still racing in any class today? Seems to me that P-Class has really taken over. As a fan I loved to see what boat ran good or won every other weekend in F1 and F2. As a APBA Tech Inspector in 2000-2001 the F1 and F2 teams were the best and most fun to work with. I miss the racing too!
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Hi Mike,
Actually I posted this over here for a few racers that realy want to discuss racing. You might want to send Frank a note through OSO.
If you follow the post, it's interesting to see whos coming out of the woodwork. Frank may be able to get 4 or 5 old F1 boats out running. That would be cool. There's some good equipment being offerred up and some worn out stuff.
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| Sorry, for some reason I have been banned from the racers milling section on OSO. I can't even see it nor can I post even in the general section even though my paid for Platinum membership is not up for another 3 months. Do not know what I ever said wrong over there but Shuble hates me. |
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Mike,
A personal observation is your probably better off. As for not being able to read the posts, that sounds like a technical glitch. Anyone should be able to read the posts. Let me bring you up to date.
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Re: F1 HP 500 Boats
I know there are alot of HP500 F1 boats out there and this could be a GREAT class builder !!! Would love to see Jim and Glen back out there in Flashwave and alot others. Thanks Frank. Dave
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If any F-1 boats for sale , E-mail me at
Merola54@comcast.net
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Good things coming ...
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Ok let's hear it.
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2000 29 fountain...I think it is still for sale you will have to contact Bill at http://totalmarineperformance.com/. Has not been raced for 2 years.
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Re: F1 HP 500 Boats
I know where there's a 2002 Formula 29 Fastech for sale...supposedly built as an F1 boat by Formula...the ad claims it's still new and never been in the water. I've talked with the dealer but haven't looked at the boat.
Frank...would it behoove me to go look at it?
Sean
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Re: F1 HP 500 Boats
Sean,
Does the boat have power ??
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Team BRE F1-44 is for sale. 25 ft Warlock. 2001
2002, 2203, 2004 GLSCS F1 Champ. 85 mph plus w/stock hp500 and Bravo/Imco drive. all the best equipment and includes trailer, storage boxes, lifting straps, Jackets and helmets w/ compcom intercom system. Factory built race hull w/special layup and hull blueprinting. $49,000 for everything including specially lab finished Bravo and Intimitator props.
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Re: F1 HP 500 Boats
The F1 class hope to get things firmed up before the APBA meeting in January. Please contact me by phone or email me at (Xtremeracingf1@aol.com) This is your chance to be heard and possible make a difference. Please lets hear from teams that are truly interested in racing this coming year. I've contacted the other F1 registered teams already and we are all pretty much on the same page and hoping to grow the class.
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Re: F1 HP 500 Boats
Frank
I will be at the meeting this year, See you there.
F-1 will be a Great class again.
Mike
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See u there Mike , and yes hopefully slow but sure we will get there !!!
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I am always ready to clean the moth balls off the old girl!!
Bring on the good news.
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do tell us more !
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Re: F1 HP 500 Boats
Please email me or call me for more information. Don't really want to through it out into a public forum right now, till we have all the details worked out. Also see if teams are truly interested in coming back out to race. Change isnt going to happen without support of equipment owers.
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Re: F1 HP 500 Boats
Frank I think you are on the right track from our phone call!!! ,this maybe the best plan i've heard yet. I might have to rethink my 2006 season???
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Re: F1 HP 500 Boats
Lets hope some of the teams out there step up to the plate and commit. Thats what its is all about, if they come out the class is well on its way.
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2003 SBI World Champion - 2002 SBI National Champion - 2003 SBI National Champion
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Re: F1 HP 500 Boats
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xtremeracing
Sean,
Does the boat have power ??
Frank,
It does...the ad says Mercury 500 EFI. The dealer told me they had the boat built by Formula for F1 for a guy after he put down a deposit...he later backed out. I don't think they've been able to sell it since it's got the race cockpit (2 person only...can't take the kids with ya).
I think it's got a Bravo 1 XR. It does have Lathem Steering, Gaffrig Guages, Race Comm...it reminds me of Herbott's boat. I think all you'd need to race it would be helmets and jackets...they're asking around $65K, but the dealer told me they could let it go for less.
Sean
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Re: F1 HP 500 Boats
I saw that boat too on boat trader. Great price , but not competitive for F-1. with or without the 500efi.
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My advice to anyone who wants to get into the class cheap. Talk to Randy at Typhoon Racing. His White F-1 is a proven competitor.
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Screamin Eagle 29 Warlock 500 EFI F1-83 is for sale and is a serious contender. Race ready!!
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HEY BRUCE I think the 292 fast tec with a 500efi could have done really well in some of this seasons SBI races ,by the way I heard you guys were gettin it done in the rough till mechs got you? OLD YELLOR is still FOR SALE not cheap but a proven winner!!!
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The Fastec may be a good rough water boat, but still cant compete against the Activator.
Yes, our SVL was running Awesome in Day 1. I think we would have won that race, if we didn't have electrical problems. But hey...thats racing. a 25 cent piece of wire took us out of the game.
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Jim,
Do me a favor and give Frank a buzz. You were one of the ones that made F1 what it once was, right now he is just trying to get everyone's opinion and put an appealing package together to build the class back up. Right now I believe there are 4 boats commited/registered with TKO being the question mark(if it sells or not) those teams are: Extreme, Lavey, VR1, and Venom.
Your knowledge would be an incredible help to him and any insight from you would be appreciated. I just wish there was something we could do to get you to bring Flashwave out of retirement, it was a pleasure to watch you guys.
Thanks
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Hi Trent,
Flashwave really is done. The boat is stripped. We're putting all new wiring in it and rigging it for pleasure. Somebody will have an 84 MPH boat with a brand new interior running Herrings for a real cheap price.
I really enjoyed running F1. The draw was a relatively low price and everyone running the same engine. This needs to be the foundation of at least a 3 year plan to bring F1 back. The number one and two reasons racers left F1 were engine changes and lack of funds.
The racers spoke last year and agreed on a 496 HO package. It is a disaster to allow any other engine in the class for 3 years. What manufacturer wants to put an Innovation engine in? None! So why should they support the class? How many potential racers want to spend money racing knowing that mid-season another more completive engine package could be allowed? The fastest way to loose racers is for them to be uncompetitive. The joy goes away fast.
I can promise you that if a detuned HP-500 is allowed, they will dominate the class. The current F1 guys should call Mercury (not Mercury Racing) and request their help. You might be amazed at how the support will grow over time if they know your committed for 3 years to the 496 HO. Anyway if Mercury won't help directly, call one of the other major distributors who move a good quantity of 496 HO's. The ability to withstand the harsh conditions of Offshore racing is a huge marketing coupe for any company selling engine packages and boat parts.
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Jim,
Just to give you a little update. The votes by the teams came in and the 496 is history. The legal motors for this year are: Merc HP 500(stock, not detuned), Innovation 500, and the Tyler Crocket 500. I spoke to JC personally and he and the board of governors gave the vote the thumbs up. Now if I could just get my hands on a 500 EFI :confused:
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Glad you guys decided on one engine package. Good luck in 2006.
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