| 89donzi |
I think most of us do it ourselves, but I thought this would be interesting anywayz, Do you do it yoursef and know its done right, or do you figure its not worth the aggrivation, pay someone and have someone to yell at if something goes wrong?
Yourself?
Pay? |
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| 89donzi |
| Bye the way I do it myself. |
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| SHIP4BRAINS |
| Single engine - store it at home in my garage - only makes sense to drink a few beers while the oil drains. |
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| ghart |
| Always did mine myself and plan on continue doing it. Even though there is a whole lot more to winterize on this one! :confused1 |
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| Black Wishbone |
| Paid someone on the stingray just did not have the time. I don't know if I trust someone on the sutphen yet. |
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| kjo43 |
| myself... cause I'm cheap :laugher: |
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| 89donzi |
quote:
Originally posted by kjo43
myself... cause I'm cheap :laugher:
:laugher: :laugher: :laugher: :laugher: hey did u travel at all this year? |
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| ghart |
quote:
Originally posted by kjo43
myself... cause I'm cheap :laugher:
Is this you, tightwad! |
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| hyper |
do it myself, I start the engine and let it warm up on the ears, once warm I stick my cut off 55 gallon drum under the foot and let the foot all the way down. I fill the drum with 6 gallons of antifreeze and 5 gallons of water. I start the engine and let it run till it runs out the exhaust and most of the antifreeze is gone. As the bucket gets low I spray fogging fuild into the carb and let it choke out. Put the batteries on the battery tender, wash the foot off, change the foot oil, lower the drive down onto a piece of wood so it is all the way down and not water will get into the prop. Cover the boat with the boat cover, then a tarp. Wait for spring. In the spring I change the oil and I am ready.....but Iforgot one thing I am runnning gas with stabil in it now so it is ready also.
You have to have some one with you to keep a eye on the water, you dont want it to run out or below the water pick up. |
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| opie272 |
I run mine till the thermostat opens then run 5 gallons of RV antifreeze from Boaters World through it.
After that I pull the thermostat housings and drain the block through the petcocks. Close the petcocks and fill the block with straight auto green antifreeze till it is full then reinstall the thermostat housing.
The first run it to protect the oil cooler, powersteering cooler and raw water pump.
The auto is to make dang sure chit don't freeze :angry1:
Done that before and was not good in the spring :dead1: |
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| RCHEVELLE71 |
| While Y'all are winterizing, we are doing our best boating :D |
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| chjohn |
| Every year it seems like some folks start posting about this strange activity called "Winterizing". I know I am not the sharpest knive in the drawer but this whole concept just confuses me. :confused: |
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| Demus |
i plan to winterise my own, first year so...
we don't stop using our water, we just start driving our sleds and cars on it, instead of the boat der,eh. hard water is just as fun as wet water, eh. ice drags, circle track motorcycle ice races, ice drinking, i mean fishing.
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| Mopower |
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Originally posted by chjohn
Every year it seems like some folks start posting about this strange activity called "Winterizing". I know I am not the sharpest knive in the drawer but this whole concept just confuses me. confused:
:flipa: :hammer: :nh1 You know of what we speak :p:
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| ghart |
quote:
Originally posted by chjohn
Every year it seems like some folks start posting about this strange activity called "Winterizing". I know I am not the sharpest knive in the drawer but this whole concept just confuses me. :confused:
While we have to deal with the freeze, you all have to deal with the breeze!
I'll take the freeze, thank you! |
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| Rattlesnake Jake |
That's not me in post #8, but i do it myself. ;)
Takes about 15 gallons of -50 RV antifreeze to do the Formula and Mothership. |
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| RSCHAP1 |
I do myself. I have heard of more boats damaged by "professionals" than do it yourselfers. Then you get a new exhaust or motor installed by the same crew that could winterize properly....
I am sure there are lots of good mechanics doing great work, but my luck would take me to the new trainee...
I still change my own car oil since I fear the worse case so much...my.02 |
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| ghart |
quote:
Originally posted by Rattlesnake Jake
That's not me in post #8, but i do it myself. ;)
Takes about 15 gallons of -50 RV antifreeze to do the Formula and Mothership.
Jake, are your boats closed cooling? I used the RV stuff in my Libby, without closed cooling, and in spring all kinds of black chit flew out the exhausts. After that I used the green stuff sold at West Marine, it had some kind of anti rust inhibitor in it.
My old Galaxy had closed cooling and the pink stuff seemed to work fine.
The Formula has closed cooling but I was going to use the green stuff for the engines and the pink stuff throughout the fresh water system and Air Conditioner cooling line. |
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| mattyboy |
I do it myself!!! winterize the boat that is ;)
I have a keg tub that I put a sump pump in with garden hose on and get around 6 gallons of antifreeze and let her run the thru hulls dump it right back into the tub so she warms up in no time this way the antifreeze is thru out the block
then i drain it and leave it drained fog each cyl and pump the oil out while it is warm
it's a 38 year old ford 351 so no oil coolers or fresh water systems to worry about I also drain and check the out drive oil leave the drive down and cover the crap out of it
my big concern now is the new e 10 fuel full /empty??
stabil for the gas but now staron too I hear the e 10 fuel is hard on rubber seals and such I was thinking about running the motor dry and leaving the tank low with stabil and staron so the fuel doesn't seperate so i don't have 25 gallons of two part crap in the tank come spring????? |
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| Rattlesnake Jake |
quote:
Originally posted by ghart
Jake, are your boats closed cooling? I used the RV stuff in my Libby, without closed cooling, and in spring all kinds of black chit flew out the exhausts. After that I used the green stuff sold at West Marine, it had some kind of anti rust inhibitor in it.
My old Galaxy had closed cooling and the pink stuff seemed to work fine.
The Formula has closed cooling but I was going to use the green stuff for the engines and the pink stuff throughout the fresh water system and Air Conditioner cooling line.
Gil, the Sea Ray has closed cooling. I have a someone pour the RV stuff in as soon as the engines fire. Pour 4 gallons per side. Use it for the generator, A/C, and the domestic water system. I have a little compressor that i use to blow out the lines first.
For the Formula, i pull all the drain plugs, put them back in. I don't run a T-Stat so i made a tee connection for the drive muffs and a hose to the high speed pickup and run 7 gallons of RV thru it. Never had a problem. |
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| 89donzi |
| all this thermostat talk, I gotta be honest I drain it all the run 100% green thru it tell its got a full flo out the back never had a problem, but Ive never really thought about that thermastat thing b4?? as far as the new fuel ???? what is the right way to do it now? seems like empty is the way to go?? |
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| ghart |
quote:
Originally posted by 89donzi
all this thermostat talk, I gotta be honest I drain it all the run 100% green thru it tell its got a full flo out the back never had a problem, but Ive never really thought about that thermastat thing b4?? as far as the new fuel ???? what is the right way to do it now? seems like empty is the way to go??
Don't you run the engine at all when you do this? Am I understanding you to say you pour the green stuff in the thermostat housing until it runs out the back, when you say out the back, do you mean out the water pick up on the drive?
As for the fuel, I'm up in the air about that myself and need an answer! |
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| 89donzi |
quote:
Originally posted by ghart
Don't you run the engine at all when you do this? Am I understanding you to say you pour the green stuff in the thermostat housing until it runs out the back, when you say out the back, do you mean out the water pick up on the drive?
As for the fuel, I'm up in the air about that myself and need an answer!
I drain all the water, manifolds, block drains, oil cooler I pull off the lowest hoses in there, then I start it up and run strait green until its flowing for a minute or 3 |
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| kjo43 |
quote:
Originally posted by 89donzi
I drain all the water, manifolds, block drains, oil cooler I pull off the lowest hoses in there, then I start it up and run strait green until its flowing for a minute or 3
Sam,
I do basically the same thing, but after I've used the drive to suck it up a gallon or two of A/F and see some coming out the exhaust, I shut it down then go in and disconnect the tops of the hoses and pour A/F in till full. I like doing this way because I am sure there is none to VERY little water when I start winterizing, no diluted A/F and filling from the top, I don't have to worry about if the thermostat is open or not. I use the pink stuff though.
No traveling this year, 1000 islands since May - I just brought the boat back to Albany this week. Hoping for a trip up to lake george or champlain before the end of the year. |
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| macklin |
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Originally posted by ghart
As for the fuel, I'm up in the air about that myself and need an answer!
Most are saying to run the tank as dry as possible because the E10 starts to degrade after about 30 - 60 days. I did this last year. I also started using Startron last summer as soon as they switched over to E10. I added my normal Stabil conditioning before winterization. I then put high test gas in the tank first thing this spring to bring the octane level up. That was my previous boat with HO's. Ran great this spring, before I traded it. ;)
I do my own winterization to the water system and AC. No brainer. And I always do my own fluid changes. I get some help for the fogging and flushing with antifreeze though. That's a two man job. |
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| saorise |
| I change the oil and filter, add stabilizer to the gas but let have my marina do the antifreeze, service and pull the drive for indoor storage and shrink wrap. |
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| hump |
| I do my own. Last year I built a new engine instead of winterizing, costs more but I didn't have to worry about it freezing. This year I will change the fluids and drain all the water before filling the engine with antifreeze. |
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| Horse power |
| I put the drive down into a bucket of antifreeze let it run then I'm done. :) |
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| tcob |
| always paid somebody to do it always will . even this outboard. while doing that look for anything else that needs attention . cheep insurance |
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| hyper |
quote:
Originally posted by Horse power
I put the drive down into a bucket of antifreeze let it run then I'm done. :)
That is what I do, you cant do it any better, even if you take the heads off and pour antifreeze straight into the water jacket!!!!!!!
This is very simple, dont make it a chore!! |
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| ammaddon |
Ok, let me get this straight.
96' non mag 454.
I am going to do it myself.
Grab a drum, make it the right height for the water pickups and run straight AF through until it comes out of the thru hull.
Simple as that and I am done?
Isnt that an excessive amount of AF to use and leaves a lot of waste? |
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| Mkos1980 |
| I made up my own kit. I put a 5 gallon gas can on my swim platorm with a 3 way valve. I put 50/50 antifreeze in the can,put one of the fittings to the can, the other fitting goes to my hose and the last one goes to my ear muffs. I turn off the antifreeze knob and turn on the water knob, start motor and wait till it reaches operatng temp then shut off the water knob and turn on the freeze knob. Antifreeze comes down to the muffs and gets sucked in. I wait till till I see green come out of the props and lower transom exhaust (no thru hull) Been doing this for years with every boat that my family has owned with perfect results. |
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| chjohn |
It is definitley not fair that there is not a choice in the poll titled:
"Smart enough to live where we do not have a need to participate in this strange activity"
We deserve a choice to vote for! :angry1: :angry1: :angry1: |
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| ghart |
There should be a thread for people who don't have the need for winterizing.
It would be named, "Pick Your Favorite Hurricane From This List!" :blush: |
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| farrar1998 |
I put a hose in my strainers and run to temp. Then 6 gallons of the RV antifreeze in each.
I store in a heated garage so I don't worry to much about freezing, but I do have to pull it out once or twice to get work in or out.
By the way, I did put a 50/50 green/water mix and a gallon of the RV in the freezer to test. 50/50 was fine. The RV turned to a gel consistency.
Don't think I would trust it if I stored outdoors or in a unheated building.
My .02
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| hyper |
quote:
Originally posted by ghart
There should be a thread for people who don't have the need for winterizing.
It would be named, "Pick Your Favorite Hurricane From This List!" :blush:
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laugher: :laugher: :laugher: :D :D |
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| Horse power |
quote:
Originally posted by ammaddon
Ok, let me get this straight.
96' non mag 454.
I am going to do it myself.
Grab a drum, make it the right height for the water pickups and run straight AF through until it comes out of the thru hull.
Simple as that and I am done?
Isnt that an excessive amount of AF to use and leaves a lot of waste?
Simple as that..... I run on the hose to flush out all the dirt ,then the tub,AF Let run then start fogg it when you have the AF flowing . :) Here is my tub cost me $10. |
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| Horse power |
| Here is a little tip. Go to your local hard where store and get the 4" plastic drain pipe for your rain gutter slide it over your exhaust aim it in the bucket and let run it will pump th A F through ,as the engine warms up the thermostat will open when the A F goes every where the water goes,and you do not have to pull any hoses and your done........... ( just like photo :D ) |
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| Horse power |
quote:
Originally posted by ghart
There should be a thread for people who don't have the need for winterizing.
It would be named, "Pick Your Favorite Hurricane From This List!" :blush:
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| chjohn |
quote:
Originally posted by ghart
There should be a thread for people who don't have the need for winterizing.
It would be named, "Pick Your Favorite Hurricane From This List!" :blush:
Here is my list and remember, it gets cold every year up your way :bigsmile:
Hurricane tracks within 10 miles of my zip code |
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| chjohn |
| Hurricane tracks within 25 miles of my zip code |
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| chjohn |
| All tropical storms, depressions and Hurricane etc tracks within 10 miles of my zip code |
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| chjohn |
| BTW One hurricane was a cat one and the other a cat two. Historically the Jacksonville area gets very few direct hits. Some of that is due to geography and some to the gulf stream the rest due to lows and highs and other complicated weather stuff. :D |
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| ghart |
Don't get so defensive! My hurricane tracks in post #34 obviously covers a greater time frame than your maps. Jacksonville is in the map in post #34.
We're getting a tad off track with this thread on winterizing but I just needed to point out the selectivity of you maps.
Oh, by the way, here's a map of the northern part of the east coast for the same time period of my map in post #34.
Seems like there are fewer hurricane tracks up this way to me! But, as you point out, we do get some cold weather here. Maybe that is what keeps hurricanes away. |
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| chjohn |
quote:
Originally posted by ghart
Don't get so defensive! My hurricane tracks in post #34 obviously covers a greater time frame than your maps. Jacksonville is in the map in post #34.
We're getting a tad off track with this thread on winterizing but I just needed to point out the selectivity of you maps.
Oh, by the way, here's a map of the northern part of the east coast for the same time period of my map in post #34.
Seems like there are fewer hurricane tracks up this way to me! But, as you point out, we do get some cold weather here. Maybe that is what keeps hurricanes away.
:eek: :eek: :eek: I did not mean to sound defensive at all. It is all in fun! :D :D :D
The selectivity I chose was distance from my zip code to the storm eye. Same time frame as yours. Statistics are just lies in a prettier package.
BTW I would move back to Seattle in a heartbeat but I do love my wife and she say's "I'll miss you" whenever I bring it up. I miss the mountains and different seasons. |
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| ghart |
| Not a problem, every location has its good points and bad. |
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| hyper1 |
| Moved to the other forum. |
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| jeffgrice |
Hi,
On my first boat I waited too long one year and the block cracked. Since then I have stored in heated storage and for the last 18 years I have had it done as I have a boat lift and store the boat there.
Besides my accident I have Dave Blaz do it because he is good and it gives me a chance to talk to him about maintenance, etc.
I was going to do it this year myself but chickened out.
On the 454 mags (1995) since there is a bypass in the t-stat housing Dave drains the blocks and clears the drains with a wire, pulls the water intake hose from the transom, pours RV AF while I start the motor, runs until AF comes out the bottom, lets drain and puts plugs back in.
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