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#22 ·
I'm a Ford guy, always have been, but.... even with an employee discount, the Ford is still more money than a similarly equipped Dodge. Dodge does not have a true crew cab (why? get a clue Dodge!!!!) but other than that it seems like a pretty nice piece.

And quite frankly, from what I've read about the 6.oh no Powerstroke, it is a crap shoot as to whether you get a good motor or a pile of (expensive) spare parts...

I'm leaning Dodge for my next truck. I could only consider a Chebby if I wore a blindfold while driving - jeebus they are fugly! Good to see the guy that styled the Aztek and Avalanche still has a job at GM though... :rolleyes:
 
#23 ·
The Pac Brake will void your Cummins 100k warranty (which the PS doesn't have). You can get an exhaust brake from the factory (Mopar Performance), but it is manufactured by Jacob's Electronics (where the term Jake Brake came from).

As far as rumors about the PS going away. I am confused by what you would consider a "major manufacturer". International/Navistar make the current 6.0L, they are pretty major in the trucking busingess.

How about this tidbit. For a long time, you could buy the Cummins 5.9L TD in a Ford 650 or 750 chassis that has a higher GVW rating than the same chassis with the powerstroke. Not sure if you still can, but someone try to explain that.
 
#24 ·
There are two types of people:
1. Those who own a Cummins
2. Those who wish they owned a Cummins

Just kidding. The big 3 all make great trucks and they all
make the most expensive pieces of crap in my opinion.
You will always have problems no matter what brand you go with.

I went from a 99 quad cab ctd to an 04 quad cab ctd.
There is no comparison at all. The new trucks are much
quieter (you can actuall order fast food without having
to turn the truck off), the brakes are truly awesome, the ride is TONS better, and the newer HO motors have tons
of power. Do yourself a favor and don't judge the newer ones by the older ones. I have no regrets with my Dodge. I drove all 3 when looking and they were all nice in different areas. The Chevy/GMC had a nicer interior than the rest, the Ford was an overall nice truck but a little less power (seat of the pants) than the rest and the Dodge was nice all around (plus the Cummins motor)
the least expensive of the 3 (still way too much) and the rebates were better. That helped make my decision.

Just my .02
 
#25 ·
We also have a 2002 Duramax 3500 DRW and a 2500 Z71 and after 80000miles both are giving us major problems...On the '98 CTD we have 160k mils and on the '94 that we sold to a neighbor has 500k miles with 1 rebuild at 300k....All the trucks except my personal truck are used for hotshots all over the country and working very hardin our yard(pulling 30k lbs of hay, feed, piglets, calfs, and other chores...So they have been driven very hard and honestly pretty mych neglected except for oil changes....And they keep on going and going and going..... :cool:
 
#27 ·
well yesterday I tested the Ford Powerstroke and The Dodge Cummins. What I found, likes and dislikes.

1. The interior on the Dodge is much nicer than the Ford. Yes there is more room in the Ford (back seat). The dash is so much nicer on the Dodge, hands down.

2. The Cummins was a bit louder than the Powerstroke. Although it's way better than earlier models. This really shouldn't be an issue when buying a Diesel.

3. The ride was very similar in both Trucks.

After yesterdays little test I'm leaning towards the Dodge. Both manufacturers have good and bad so it really comes down to personal likes and dislikes.
 
#28 · (Edited)
Cummins was going to give Dodge @ 500,000mi warranty on the engine like the big trucks. Dodge refused and said they will only give customers 100K warranty.

I suspect that is do to the tranny the weak link.

BTW I own a Dodge '01 Quad Cummins 4" exhaust and the Blue Chip fuel management system. I have 125,000 on the truck and (knock on wood) have had no tranny problems yet. 345hp and around 625flbstq.

Truck get's 19-23mph not towing 12mph towing. Stock 17-19mph non towing 10mph towing.
 
#29 ·
bigblock2stroke said:
The Pac Brake will void your Cummins 100k warranty (which the PS doesn't have). You can get an exhaust brake from the factory (Mopar Performance), but it is manufactured by Jacob's Electronics (where the term Jake Brake came from).

As far as rumors about the PS going away. I am confused by what you would consider a "major manufacturer". International/Navistar make the current 6.0L, they are pretty major in the trucking busingess.

How about this tidbit. For a long time, you could buy the Cummins 5.9L TD in a Ford 650 or 750 chassis that has a higher GVW rating than the same chassis with the powerstroke. Not sure if you still can, but someone try to explain that.
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lighter engine ?
 
#30 ·
I saw a video of a Black F350 doing a 1/4 mile pass . The story that came with it was it had a Cummins in it.

Something about exclusivity ran out on the contract.

Didnt know if it was BS or not,,, but a Cummins in a Ford would be something I would consider. I have been a Chevy guy all along, but I do not like the front ends of this years truck. I only have 40k on my 2500 so there is no urgent need to buy something,,,,,,,,,, it will be wait for a restyling and hope I like it, or jump ship.
 
#31 ·
I bought all fords before because my uncle is a test driver so I buy all Fords on the "A"plan....The Dodge was a better truck for me this time and still costs less. After I read that Ford had to buy back almost 70000 '03-'04 Strokes I was happy i sayed with the Cummins. The 7.3 PS was a monster of a motor and I loved the '02 after all the mods we did...The only problem that I have seen with the Fords is the tranny seems to start having problems around 45k. I always thought it was from the mods and the way I drive but I had an older gentleman tell me today that his '02 PS 4 door 2wd was having tranny problems and it is 100% stock....Has anyone else had any issues similar to mine?
 
#33 ·
eMotiondriver said:
Cummins was going to give Dodge @ 500,000mi warranty on the engine like the big trucks. Dodge refused and said they will only give customers 100K warranty.

I suspect that is do to the tranny the weak link.

BTW I own a Dodge '01 Quad Cummins 4" exhaust and the Blue Chip fuel management system. I have 125,000 on the truck and (knock on wood) have had no tranny problems yet. 345hp and around 625flbstq.

Truck get's 19-23mph not towing 12mph towing. Stock 17-19mph non towing 10mph towing.
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It seems that they will hold up in the 350 range on the drums if you dont abuse it too much but not much over that. *tranny*
 
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#34 ·
obnoxus said:
I saw a video of a Black F350 doing a 1/4 mile pass . The story that came with it was it had a Cummins in it.

Something about exclusivity ran out on the contract.

Didnt know if it was BS or not,,, but a Cummins in a Ford would be something I would consider. I have been a Chevy guy all along, but I do not like the front ends of this years truck. I only have 40k on my 2500 so there is no urgent need to buy something,,,,,,,,,, it will be wait for a restyling and hope I like it, or jump ship.
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Transplants are pretty common with the fords.
 
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bigblock2stroke, I must correct you. I have an 04' Powerstroke that came with a factory 100,000 mile warrantee.

emotiondriver, I do not have any hard evidence to argue your claim, but I think if cummins wanted to offer a 500,000 mile warrantee, then Dodge would be all over it. You see, when someone takes their truck to the dealership, the dealership gets to charge the manufacturer for the labor, in which case, Cummins.

Anyhow, I enjoy reading these types of posts, but everyone likes their own truck. Like someone said earlier, all his friends had fords and they were the best truck out there, then all the same friends had chevies and they were the best truck out there.

I don't have a problem with people liking their trucks and bashing others trucks, but when rumors start flying that are clearly NOT true, that is when it gets to me. (100,000 mile warrantee that ps doesn't offer) :angry1:
 
#36 · (Edited)
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emotiondriver, I do not have any hard evidence to argue your claim, but I think if cummins wanted to offer a 500,000 mile warranty, then Dodge would be all over it. You see, when someone takes their truck to the dealership, the dealership gets to charge the manufacturer for the labor, in which case, Cummins.

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I was surprised Dodge didn't take them up on it also. I suspect if they warranted the engine they would have to do the same for the drive train.

I almost bought the Ford after towing my boat to OC, MD.

After learning of the Dodge/Cummins deal I thought it would be a better buy if Cummins was ready to stand behind them, with no questions. Cummins acts like it's a big truck engine and reccomends an in frame overhaul at 250,000 or 350,000, I don't remeber.(probably 250,000mi)

I like all Diesels, just not all body stlyes.

Another thing to think about just about every big truck has an inline 6 and they will run for ever if taken care of. I had a few friends that repowered there trucks with V-8 Dertriots and they ran great for a while, some have inlines agian or are constantly fixing now that mileage is up. :confused:

Just a thought if your going to keep for a while with high Mi.
 
#37 ·
Shameless said:
I was talking to a Ford dealer today that I do work for and he said the PowerStroke is on the way out. He said Ford is working with a big Maufacturer, (I can't remember the name) for their f-450's chassis and up and also the diesels for the f-250's and up. Might be something to look into.
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I was back at the Ford dealer today and asked again into this. He said the PowerStroke is going to be giving way to a motor built by Navistar...
 
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#38 ·
I tow a 42' Cig. almost 16K with fuel on a Myco and I was towing with a 01 short box, DRW, Crew, V-10 with 4.30 gears. Pulling 75 mph I would get 4.5-5 mph. I just went to LOTO last week (500 miles) my 05 short box, DRW, Crew, PSD with 4.10 gears and a Edge 5 postion chip ( level 5 = 115 additional hp and 290 additional ft of torque) in postion 2 (tow mode) we averaged 10 mpg and the truck only had 100 miles on it when we left. The power is unreal. In normal drive mode ( postion 3 ) the truck is a blast to drive. I mode 4 or 5 you will not believe the power. Before you buy I would find someone with a new 6.0 PSD and hook to your trailer, you will be impressed....
 
#39 ·
It's not a simple decision. They all have trade-off's.

If you want a truck that has a powerful, proven diesel, you buy a Dodge The trade off is lost cab space, increased maintenance, and problems up the ying-yang with suspension, axle's, brakes, A/C, and all other parts surrounding the Cummins monster.
Ford has a better truck, but the diesel engine is total junk. No power, louder than a freight train, and un-reliable.
The Chevy w/ the Duramax diesel is a powerful engine, good on fuel, and almost as quiet as a gas engine. The truck is reliable (just throw away the brake rotors as soon as you get the truck, its a fact that all Chevy rotors rot away fast) the cab is roomy, the options are unlimited, such as XM radio, power everything, DVD entertainment systems, and On Star. The trade off is, you will pay a little more money for the truck.
 
#40 · (Edited)
bajaicebreaker, I don't know where you get your information from. I have a friend with the duramax and his truck is just as loud, if not a little louder than my 6.0 PSD, and the motor is not total Junk. I will give you the fact the chevy has more gadgets and options, and the layout of the dash and radio looks totally awesome, but let's stick to the facts....huh? :winker:
 
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