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Discussion starter · #21 ·
I have emailed a few times with my questions: history, how many owners, factory motor, REALLY a Merc Racing motor, who installed and made the mounts/plate, who made the mufflers, what happened to the skeg and prop, ever had gimble and or coupler replaced, aligned????
Left a message on the seller's phone too...NOTHING
I think that they are hoping for someone to just be amazed by the motor and look away from the homemade cobblings...
Too scary for me.
I do not doubt that it could be Merc and original, but still too many possible issues and who the F runs around with a bent/dinged up prop behind that kind of motor? And doesn't return inquiries? I am guessing that they were offended by me, but stuff I would have to know.
BTW the asking price was $14k, so not a fortune, but the 235 is a pretty small boat too.
 
Discussion starter · #23 ·
I really did not have too much doubt that it could have actually been a Merc Racing motor like stated, but I cannot believe it was factory installed like it was.
I thought a motor plate was a good solid idea, but the hot rolled steel pieces that tied the plate to the boat's floor/stringers (I hope) looked like they were bent in a vise and drilled with a hand drill. Lag bots into floor, and all the hardware was just palin stuff too. Nothing painted, plated, stainless, coated, just bottom of the line nuts and bolts. I can't think Checkmate was making their mounts like that...

On top of all the other homemade gizmos...


Another drive to look at a Tri-toon yesterday. 25 foot with a 2003 or 4 Yamaha 2 stroke Vmax 150.
I thought it sounded like fun. It was. I got it pretty good on top. 7 people (few of them kids) low on gas and it hit 45 on the speedo easily. Guessing it was probably 40 for real. BUT...you could tell it was an older 2 stroke bass boat motor. It started hard, smoked, loaded up after a 4-5 minute low speed/idle into deeper water, and spitted and sputtered alot more than neighbors 4 strokes and E Tecs. I could see the wife and kids stranding themselves after flooding and fouling plugs in it. AND as cool as it was, it is still a TOON. Beenthinking the room would be nice and comfy, but even with third toon, STILL A PONTOON. We were on Wixom Lake a few hours away from home. First a 201 Lib w/ open pipes goes by. Son points out an HTM!!!! A couple Checkmates. Then cruising by goes a POWERQUEST:)
I am thinking I may be able to stomach another deckboat as long as it has a v-8, and some roomy comfort, but being in that place, even on a toon that flew(in my book-I grade on a budget restricted curve)it was deflating not putting me on top of the world like I hade thought.
Wixom Lake looked like a pretty hot spot for some cool rides, anyone from that side of the "mitten"?
The area we were in looked a little narrow for high speed blasts, but they were happening:)

THANKS AGAIN for all the info on the 502 !!!
 
Hey Guys ,
I bought this boat in April 2012 and it has been a very nice Checkmate. Everything checked out to be genuine including the stainless motor mounts. I did remove them awful mufflers. The skeg was damaged when a salesmen from the dealership took it to Houghton Lake . I have hit 82 with it so far at 4400rpm 2 of us full of fuel radar with more to go. It came with 2 brief cases full of a maint. and documentation. near mint condition. I bought it for $10,500 cash. It is 465hp and 445 at the prop. I love this boat and I bought on my way home from St. Louis Mo. where the Sunsation I was planning to buy just did'nt make the cut. Be safe out there .:chase:
 
Hey Guys ,
I bought this boat in April 2012 and it has been a very nice Checkmate. Everything checked out to be genuine including the stainless motor mounts. I did remove them awful mufflers. The skeg was damaged when a salesmen from the dealership took it to Houghton Lake . I have hit 82 with it so far at 4400rpm 2 of us full of fuel radar with more to go. It came with 2 brief cases full of a maint. and documentation. near mint condition. I bought it for $10,500 cash. It is 465hp and 445 at the prop. I love this boat and I bought on my way home from St. Louis Mo. where the Sunsation I was planning to buy just did'nt make the cut. Be safe out there .:chase:
82??? Dayum. What prop are you running?
 
It's fast for sure. May want to check this though.
http://www.rbbi.com/folders/prop/propcalc.htm
I have already done the calcs. Thanks. I believe its a 31 + labbed along with the prop shop and
because it is a dog on the holeshot and the 27 jumps out. The gal I bought it from thought it was 28. It only has Spinelli Custom engraved on it and the receipt. Showing 86 on the VDO speedo. I flew past a Convincor and a Liberator like nothin both with 502s. The chart does not even take into account any physical aspect of a boat. According to it you will go the same speed if it were in a sleek racer or a big family cruiser/ tank.
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Discussion starter · #29 ·
Hey Guys ,
I bought this boat in April 2012 and it has been a very nice Checkmate. Everything checked out to be genuine including the stainless motor mounts. I did remove them awful mufflers. The skeg was damaged when a salesmen from the dealership took it to Houghton Lake . I have hit 82 with it so far at 4400rpm 2 of us full of fuel radar with more to go. It came with 2 brief cases full of a maint. and documentation. near mint condition. I bought it for $10,500 cash. It is 465hp and 445 at the prop. I love this boat and I bought on my way home from St. Louis Mo. where the Sunsation I was planning to buy just did'nt make the cut. Be safe out there .:chase:
CONGRATS!!!
I was certainly an interesting rig.
I figured it would fly with that power.
Everything I heard back about that motor sounded great.
Glad to hear that someone who can enjoy it got it!
Cool you found the thread and everything too!
Have fun !!
Again, CONGRATS!!!
 
The chart does not even take into account any physical aspect of a boat. According to it you will go the same speed if it were in a sleek racer or a big family cruiser/ tank.
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Uh, no, that is not what I am saying and it does take that into account. The only thing that changes is the slip between any style boat. I assumed a 10% slip which would be more what you refer to as a slick boat (you may have slightly less than that). Spinning a prop through the water, is well, spinning a prop through the water and on each style boat the slip changes, that's it...

A 31P prop makes more sense, however.

That's flying either way is my point. Glad to see you got rid of the mufflers! Those were...interesting :D

FYI I wouldn't brag about passing a Liberator though, they are slow, just ask me ;)

Cool boat man, I dig it.
 
Discussion starter · #35 ·
You lucky SOB
Mackinac and then Higgins
What a sweet trip
Enjoy the water at Higgins:)
NICE!!!
Take some pics of that thing rippin through the straights
and...
chilling at Higgins Sandbars

just open exhaust now?
you gotta run 93 fuel in that motor? I forgot...

Tear it up!!!
 
You lucky SOB
Mackinac and then Higgins
What a sweet trip
Enjoy the water at Higgins:)
NICE!!!
Take some pics of that thing rippin through the straights


and...
chilling at Higgins Sandbars








just open exhaust now?













you gotta run 93 fuel in that motor? I forgot...

Tear it up!!!
Will do. It runs fine on 87 but I always run 93. I have a cottage near Higgins, so there often. Last week there was a 43' Sunsation F4 rockin Higgins with twin 850s. 120mph. Sweeeeet!
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Discussion starter · #39 ·
I think that Checkmate has been listed for sale lately too...
It IS beautiful water there:)
I made my first trip to Torch last year, NICE too!
We did that after attending BOYNE THUNDER!!!
That was AWESOME too!!!!
Its that time of year again too:)
 
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