Time To Put The Engine Back In

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Kidnova

Discussion Starter · Jun 13, 2008

Any CNY guys know of someplace I can take the Humble Little Nova to get the engine dropped in and out drive aligned ?

I was going to have Jay Baker do it but Jay said he can't get to it for about 2 weeks

Any suggestions would be appreciated

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Blue Thunder

· #2 · Jun 14, 2008

Well its about time! I bought an engine hoist from harbor freight and added a ram extension. Works great and it was cheap. Other than that you can come over here and I'll put it in for you. I get the first ride though :bigsmile:

Kidnova

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jun 15, 2008 (Edited)

Blue Thunder said:
Well its about time! I bought an engine hoist from harbor freight and added a ram extension. Works great and it was cheap. Other than that you can come over here and I'll put it in for you. I get the first ride though :bigsmile:

Hi Dave - The dyno shop loaned me the carb plate they used to load the engine back in my truck. I used chains on the heads to load it. With the chains, the engine was probably over a foot lower off the loader than it is with the carb plate. I got to measuring tonight, and think I can get the loader on my tractor high enough to back the boat under it, whilst the ZZ is dangling :shocked: Only glitch is, with the loader all the way up, the center of the engine will only be about 3 feet from the front of the tractor. So I need to rig up an extension, to get the engine out in front of the tractor another 12-14 inches. So, I might have the install problem solved

Once the ZZ is in the boat I can take it and have the alignment checked.

Can you tell me the sequence to follow for the springs and washers for the rear mount ? I checked Bam, and didn't find anything. And of course I can't remember the order in which they came off :dead: But then, it it's been almost two years now

btw, I'll probably phark something up, so please, feel free to come help

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RSCHAP1

· #4 · Jun 15, 2008

No alignment tool ?

Kidnova

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jun 15, 2008

RSCHAP1 said:
No alignment tool ?

Nope. I've always taken the boat to Stern Drive Specialists (used to be a SW advertiser I think) for OD service/check up, and alignment. I've never even seen an alignment tool used

wtfo

· #6 · Jun 15, 2008 (Edited)

Alignment tool is simple to use and a cheap, worthwhile investment... and a lot better than having to take it somewhere to get it checked or smoking a coupler. Even I can use one now (that's saying a lot). can find the dimensions on the web and have one turned or buy one online somewhere or even off ebay, just have someone check the dimensions if you get one from an unsure source. All you have to do once the engine is in place and close is grease it up and slip it in (yea, I feel kinda cheap when doing it and am glad that boats are generally thought of as female or I might feel ashamed after...), read the spline marks in the grease and move the engine up and down with the mount adjusting nuts until you get it just right. rotate the engine and kep checking it until right all the way around, tighten it down, give it one final check and done. You'll be done in lass time than it takes to drive your boat somewhere and you'll know you got it just right...

obnoxus

· #7 · Jun 15, 2008

fiber washer and spring go on the transom plate,,,, then set the motor,,, then the big spacer, washer and bolt go in

Kidnova

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jun 16, 2008

Well I pulled the tractor up to the boat yesterday just to get an idea of how the engine "drop in" might work out. The boat is deep, and looks like I'd actually need to lower part of the bucket into the boat, to get the engine down to the mounts. The bucket is too wide, won't fit

I'm work'n on coming up with some kind of "extension" for the loader that I can hang the engine from. I have a couple of ideas, where there's a will here's a way

Thanks for the info so far

23concept

· #9 · Jun 16, 2008

When I used my tractor to pull and replace the engine I had to attach a block and tackle to the bucket. Once over the engine compartment I used the block and tackle to lower it in, and it was pretty easy and I was doing it myself. It moves easily and slow so it gives you plenty of time and movement to align things as you are dropping it down in. Just a thought.

NYSuperboat24

· #10 · Jun 16, 2008

Kid,

I would say just load the motor in the bucket and then dump it right in the back of the boat...problem solved :laugher: Good luck and be safe. Keep us posted.

OPtimus Prime

· #11 · Jun 16, 2008

Question? If you never moved the nuts do you have to re-align?

I assume it's better safe than sorry but just wondering.

Andretti 502

· #12 · Jun 16, 2008

Sorry I don't have my garage with the tall ceilings anymore Bill. I would have had that thing in there in a couple hours fer ya.

Rattlesnake Jake

· #13 · Jun 17, 2008

Just go buy a bigger tractor..

:laugher: :laugher:

hump

· #14 · Jun 17, 2008

OPtimus Prime said:
Question? If you never moved the nuts do you have to re-align?

I assume it's better safe than sorry but just wondering.

The motor rarely goes back in exactly as it came out. Minor adjustments may be all you need but you will need to check it.

Kidnova

Discussion Starter · #15 · Jun 17, 2008

23concept said:
When I used my tractor to pull and replace the engine I had to attach a block and tackle to the bucket. Once over the engine compartment I used the block and tackle to lower it in, and it was pretty easy and I was doing it myself. It moves easily and slow so it gives you plenty of time and movement to align things as you are dropping it down in. Just a thought.

That's my plan now. I have a 2 ton come-a-long I can use. Back of the boat is about 5 1/2 feet off the ground. Carb plate to the bottom of the oil pan is about 2 1/2 feet. Bucket raises to about 9 feet, and will go about 3 feet over the boat. Just need to figure out how to get about another foot up, and another foot in over the boat. Think I have a way to do it

OPtimus - Like hump said, might need minor adjustments, just don't know. I talked to Chris Martin at Stern Drive yesterday. Chris said he'll squeeze me in for a an OD/engine alignment when the time comes. I'd feel safer that way.

Thanks Norm. I know, ZZ would be in, in no time. wtf did ya have to go get a regular job for ? :laugher:

Eliot - I tried that. Engine ended up side down in the bilge. Wouldn't idle for schidt

:laugher: Hope to see you up at camp in August

Jake - bring me a bigger tractor

NYSuperboat24

· #16 · Jun 17, 2008

Kidnova said:
Eliot - I tried that. Engine ended up side down in the bilge. Wouldn't idle for schidt :laugher: Hope to see you up at camp in August

Ha worth a shot!....keep me posted on when you are heading up. Btw. for that extra foot do something like Tack said, just park the trailer in a hole and let the air out of the trailer tires

Kidnova

Discussion Starter · #17 · Jun 17, 2008

Tack said:
Kid, great to hear it is going in soon. Take your tires and wheels off your trailer and set the trailer on the hubs (1x6 under hubs) and raise your tongue all the way up with the trailer jack. Will probably give you another foot of clearance at the stern. Also, how hard is it to remove the bucket? Would that give you the clearance you need to lower the tractor arms into the boat? Good luck, and if you need an extra set of hands, I'm sure a few of us locals can make some time to help get it in there.

Dave

Hey Dave, thanks for the offer to help. I really appreciate it allot !! Bucket off would shorten the forward reach so that won't do it. I'm pretty sure I can rig up a height and length extension on the bucket that will do the job. Just gotta find the time at this point.

thanks again

Kidnova

Discussion Starter · #18 · Jun 18, 2008 (Edited)

obnoxus said:
fiber washer and spring go on the transom plate,,,, then set the motor,,, then the big spacer, washer and bolt go in

what actually sits on the transome plate.... the spring, or washer ? Or, which (or who

) is on top ?

Thanks

edit;;; never mind.... just went out and checked. springs fit INSIDE the fiber washers :dead: I'm learn'n

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