this guy is out of tampa fl and he has new and used drives. 727-422-8200

 

A friend of mine runs them here in his Outerlimits. I think he is switching to Bravos over the winter. I can check with him to. I know he had spares.

 

not answering.. prolly because of the hurricane. How much do you think they run for used ?

 

obnoxus : That would be real cool ! I am in Lansing IL so im pretty close !

 

the number i gave you starts about 2500.00 to 5000.00 price range.

 

P29Steve > He just got ahold of me and he said they start at $2200 without props up to $4500 for the last new one he had. I just happened to find this on ebay..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Scar...with-Blackhawk-outdrive_W0QQitemZ4584095463QQcategoryZ31271QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Looks pretty cool . I wonder what kind of mph gain there is over my bravo 1

 

www.ebaymotors.com

Item # 4584095463

 

i talked to gary out at merc before i bought my p-29 and he is the man who designed this blackhawk drive. he told me at testing the scarab at lake x that the same boat with bravos was 6 to 7mph slower because the blackhawks are surface drives. my personal opinion i like the blackhawks alot plus they throw alot of water.

 

whats the strenght difference between the two ?

 

gary told me that this drive would hold atleast 500 hp and i think bravos are 600hp but not sure.

 

They should be the same strength, but they come out of the water alot faster so you have to be quick on the throttle, or else :confused1 Steve has been running his for 5 or 6 years now with no problems (knocking on wood)

 

obnoxus : That would be real cool ! I am in Lansing IL so im pretty close !

New or used,,, he has both !!!!!!

 

which ever would probably be cheaper. I boat on small lakes so I just want the extra mph that they offer

 

Just remember you can't just bolt on a Blackhawk to any hull and make it work. Your boat needs a high X dim and MUST have a lot of natural bow lift. All V-bottoms that came from the factory with blackhawks had hull mods.

 

This is where I think some of the 22' Scarab owners will have to chime in. That ebay add I posted above has a 22 Scarab with a blackhawk drive. Not real sure how it works for him. I think the 22 Scarab has alot of bow lift because the cockpit is set so far back and the nose is very light. I am building the motor with aluminum heads and so forth and my main concern is gonna be if it will hold up to a 450 hp 454. Also I am wondering if im gonna need trim tabs to make it work.

 

Need rocker no hook for starts.

 

 

Need rocker no hook for starts.

Yep, the boat needs some rocker in the hull. It MIGHT work with a flat bottom with no hook. The blackhawks need to be at the surface as well so they are usually mounted 2-3" higher on the transom. The blackhawk, being a lot shorter, has a lot less leverage when you trim it up so that is the reason for your boat needing natural bow lift. Which is usually accomplished by rocker in the hull.

When you run your boat WFO now where do you trim your drive?

 

roughly 3/4 up on the guage. throws a 3 to 5 ft rooster tail.. anything more or less will slow it down

 

Who has a pic of these drives? I can't picture them.

 

this is the best i can do until i get to work tomorrow

 

Finding the drives are one issue, finding props are another. I have a buddy who has one that has had some work done to it and was running 900HP through it in a 22 Daytona. Could not find props but found someone who would make them for around $1200 if i remember correctly.

 

Who has a pic of these drives? I can't picture them.

 

these are on my boat

 

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