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Water in Oil - 1998 Volvo Penta 3.0 SX

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#1 ·
Before anyone tells me to use the search function, I have been exploring google for months to help me find and answer to this question.

Quite literaly days after purchasing the above mentioned vessle we had water within the oil, noticed after the valve in cyclinder 1 cracked. We dismantled the head and made the neccessary repairs. This included having the head pressure tested (which came back fine), replaced the head gasket. we noticed the 'flap' with the exhaust was missing so replaced this and more recently we replaced the exhaust manifold.

Since all this has been done water is still getting into the oil. Our first thoughts were that the existing condenstation was causing the problem, but the water is incredibly milkly. The oil has been changed several times along with the oil filter.

All we can presume now is there is a crack in the block, but im led to believe these are extremelly durable - is there anyway to test?

What seeems the strangest is that the boat is now running perfectly, when the hose is attached with ears, the oil remains fine. But after a day on the water it isnt anymore. Can there be anything at the transom causing the problem.

Because i have the feeling we are only getting water in the oil when the boat is in the water. Could this be because the engine is getting hot enough for any cracks to expand?

Any usefull information would be appreciated, please dont not waste time posting any critiscm or pointless posts it helps noone. Must of the threads i have read have a question with some suggestions but no final results.

Thanks again in advance.
 
#5 ·
It definitely sounds like an internal crack. When the boat is under power there is more stress. The engine especially an inline 3.0 tends to flex under power.

Unfortunately, it sounds like you will need to take out the engine.

This could have happened 2 ways, improper winterization or many hours of saltwater use and not being flushed continuously.
 
#7 ·
**Update**

Still have the same problem with water in the oil. Have taken the head off and made visual checks, all seems fine (this has already been pressure tested and skimmed).

The pistons and face of the block look fine to. Blocked all of the water lets and used air to pressure test - still couldnt see or hear anything (had a pipe inside the dipstick).

Really runnning out of ideas now. Were going to have the head tested again to double check they did actual test it.

Anyone with any other ideas?
 
#8 ·
i would pull the manifold and riser, separate them and check for cracks which you can do by filling the water jackets up with water and watching to see if the levels go down. Those manifolds and risers are prone to hairline cracks that will open up more when the boat is under use in the water and the entire engine gets up to temp. off the top of my head i know we replaced 3 manifolds and risers last year on those motors.
 
#11 ·
Get the block and head magnafluxed. They are cast iron and are throw away components. The cheaper alternative would be to just swap out the 5qts of oil ($10 per flush) at some regular interval until your ready to replace the engine with a salvage unit. If it lets go then so be it, you're looking at less money to just drop in a longblock 3.0L
 
#14 ·
yes they are. When I was looking to hotrod this thing I found a company that does them up with porting and cam yada yada...$6k

Even a short block on egay is around $2500...ouch

Alfy1987...email me. I'll hook you up with a smokin deal. I need parts $$ for my 4.3 build. i'll give you any info u need.
 
#15 ·
Ok an update!

So the head has been tested and that was fine, we have now completely removed the engine from the boat and stripped the bottom end.

Had the block tested and has come back fine also.

All i can presume is we originally had water come up through the exhaust due to a missing flap and this left water has never been cleared!

Can anyone think of anything i might be missing here! Could a bad starter cause this problem?

It feels like ill put alot of effort into putting the engine all back together and then have the same problem?

The previous owners apparently had an oil pump failure, so the cylinders have been bored with oversized pistons and new shells.

From also reading the original advertisement, the transom has been replaced?! Im not sure how relevant this it with relation to water in the oil? As i get the impression the issue with water in the oil is only when the boat is in the water and not running on the drive with ears!

Any further help is appreciated!
 
#16 ·
there is way more pressure when in the water running than on the earmuffs.. One thought is for some reason you have too much water pressure which can force water thru headgasket into engine . Get a water pressure gauge and see what it reads when you are actually running the boat. If thats not it you can just replace it.
Those motors are cheap as hell here. My buddy just bought a good running one for $100 on craigslist for his pontoon boat and I have seen quite a few nice running ones for $500-1000 on both craigslist and ebay. Then search for a good freight forwarder and you should be able to get it shipped to you for around 500-700 to the UK and keep yours for parts.
 
#17 ·
alfy1987 said:
Ok an update!

So the head has been tested and that was fine, we have now completely removed the engine from the boat and stripped the bottom end.

Had the block tested and has come back fine also.

All i can presume is we originally had water come up through the exhaust due to a missing flap and this left water has never been cleared!

Can anyone think of anything i might be missing here! Could a bad starter cause this problem?

It feels like ill put alot of effort into putting the engine all back together and then have the same problem?

The previous owners apparently had an oil pump failure, so the cylinders have been bored with oversized pistons and new shells.

From also reading the original advertisement, the transom has been replaced?! Im not sure how relevant this it with relation to water in the oil? As i get the impression the issue with water in the oil is only when the boat is in the water and not running on the drive with ears!

Any further help is appreciated!
I have been told by an engine builder that these engines can crack behind the water pump(circulation pump) and they can be repaired with marine tex.